I didn’t watch the show yesterday (want to keep my blood pressure down) but I continue to be amazed at tv journalists being unable to be prepared for many of Trump’s common lies. For example, every time he is asked about why he held the classified documents his answer is always a variation on “the Presidential Records Act allows it.”
If I were preparing an interview with him I would expect that answer to a question about the documents. My prepared response would be, “we’ve heard you make this claim before. I’m going to have the actual text of the Act put on the screen and am giving you a copy of the text. I have been unable to find anything in the text that gave you the right to hold the documents. Could you please show us where in the text it specifically gives a president the right to hold classified documents after leaving office?”
The pushback was so rare it was maddening to watch this. I turned off the tv to keep from screaming. The man has the mind and temperament of petulant child; Welker approached this interview like a babysitter who’d never encountered an infant before.
Coupla things. First of all, does a Trump in interview *really* get good ratings? I mean, if one is an exclusive Fox viewer and staunch GOP/Trump supporter, I really can't see him watching MSNBC just to see Trump. Trump's his guy, and he knows everything he needs to know.
Secondly, in what world is Welker living in, where infanticide (murdering a baby after it's born) is the same as an "abortion later in pregnancy"? It really seems like she, and NBC by extension, really wanted to give Trump every benefit of the doubt.
We need to challenge journalists to find any hospital in America that has this in their policy and procedure manuals.
They will not find one.
However, it’s a lie that is so heartbreaking and horrific that’s why it is being repeated over and over. It’s a political winner for the religious right. It sustains their valuable culture warriors army.
Respectfully, I think any non-right wing platform interviewing Trump is a terrible idea. If you don't legitimize him and make him feel "good," then he just gets mad and screams over the interviewer and calls them nasty names. Let him spew his lies and venom in platforms that already legitimize him and don't give him any more mainstream exposure. He is not a reasonable person.
This was totally predictable, we've seen her interviewing "skills" before. NBC should be ashamed of this but instead they are promoting Trump and Welker's interview like it is true journalism. Disgraceful, and same to Andrea Mitchell for promoting it on her show, and for that matter ANY other MSNBC or NBC commentator who promotes this Authoritarian propaganda.
What I read this morning is that many legal experts are calling the interview “masterful” because she got Trump to say, several times, he trusted his instincts on how to interfere in the election results and did not listen to any of his attorneys. This eviscerates his reliance on advice of counsel defense and hands Jack Smith a new video for trial.
Getting Trump to say some thing self-incriminating does not require any skill. He loves to hear himself talk and isn’t capable of recognizing that anything he ever did was wrong, so naturally he says things that are damaging to himself.
Crediting Welker for getting him to do so during her atrocious interview of him is like praising the sun for rising in the morning. It’s going to happen no matter what you say to it.
“Mr President” and a walk to show off his golf course-- Tell me why. An agreement NBC made with him so they can have more access... They truly have not learned a thing since 2016!!!
I am very curious to the conditions that Trump's people laid out before they allowed him to do the interview. Or perhaps they didn't allow this and true to form he ignored them. Still, I suspect they did and weighed in on what he could be asked. I have read 3 different discussions of this interview which I am fortunate enough not to have watched, and each has a different perspective although all agree that it is harming democracy to allow him to lie about absolutely everything. Jay Kuo did however point out that Trump said things that put him in even bigger legal trouble, because he refuted the case that he is making for his innocence in his Federal case. https://statuskuo.substack.com/p/so-much-for-that-defense-donald
However, it is clear that the American mainstream press is feckless, which is why so many people are writing political analysis on Substack I suppose. The oligarchy here is no better than that in Russia and that is who owns the mainstream. Unfortunately, those who believe Trump, and it is a big group, are not going to be more on his side because of this, because that would be impossible. They are cultists. They are worshippers of Trump, which is what he wants. Like most cult leaders he thinks he is God! Those that agree need to figure things out for themselves. Forty years of Reaganomics has created a lot of lost souls. People who believe that they should expect nothing from their government, and if they suffer it is someone else's fault, but not that of the Criminals in the Republican Party.
I agree that the conditions for agreeing to the interview may have hamstrung things - also as an outside observer, I agree about Reagonomics being a pivotal time in the Republican Party & their adherents - always looked terrible to me at the time as well.
I didn’t watch the show yesterday (want to keep my blood pressure down) but I continue to be amazed at tv journalists being unable to be prepared for many of Trump’s common lies. For example, every time he is asked about why he held the classified documents his answer is always a variation on “the Presidential Records Act allows it.”
If I were preparing an interview with him I would expect that answer to a question about the documents. My prepared response would be, “we’ve heard you make this claim before. I’m going to have the actual text of the Act put on the screen and am giving you a copy of the text. I have been unable to find anything in the text that gave you the right to hold the documents. Could you please show us where in the text it specifically gives a president the right to hold classified documents after leaving office?”
Now that doesn’t seem so hard, does it?
Great reply. They know every lie he will tell. BE PREPARED. Don’t just be concerned about access.
The pushback was so rare it was maddening to watch this. I turned off the tv to keep from screaming. The man has the mind and temperament of petulant child; Welker approached this interview like a babysitter who’d never encountered an infant before.
Coupla things. First of all, does a Trump in interview *really* get good ratings? I mean, if one is an exclusive Fox viewer and staunch GOP/Trump supporter, I really can't see him watching MSNBC just to see Trump. Trump's his guy, and he knows everything he needs to know.
Secondly, in what world is Welker living in, where infanticide (murdering a baby after it's born) is the same as an "abortion later in pregnancy"? It really seems like she, and NBC by extension, really wanted to give Trump every benefit of the doubt.
Thank you Aaron! This is an excellent post.
We need to challenge journalists to find any hospital in America that has this in their policy and procedure manuals.
They will not find one.
However, it’s a lie that is so heartbreaking and horrific that’s why it is being repeated over and over. It’s a political winner for the religious right. It sustains their valuable culture warriors army.
Respectfully, I think any non-right wing platform interviewing Trump is a terrible idea. If you don't legitimize him and make him feel "good," then he just gets mad and screams over the interviewer and calls them nasty names. Let him spew his lies and venom in platforms that already legitimize him and don't give him any more mainstream exposure. He is not a reasonable person.
This was totally predictable, we've seen her interviewing "skills" before. NBC should be ashamed of this but instead they are promoting Trump and Welker's interview like it is true journalism. Disgraceful, and same to Andrea Mitchell for promoting it on her show, and for that matter ANY other MSNBC or NBC commentator who promotes this Authoritarian propaganda.
That interview was a travesty. I don't know what else can or should be said.
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Whoever assigned her this aggravating as hell interview needs to go away.
What I read this morning is that many legal experts are calling the interview “masterful” because she got Trump to say, several times, he trusted his instincts on how to interfere in the election results and did not listen to any of his attorneys. This eviscerates his reliance on advice of counsel defense and hands Jack Smith a new video for trial.
Getting Trump to say some thing self-incriminating does not require any skill. He loves to hear himself talk and isn’t capable of recognizing that anything he ever did was wrong, so naturally he says things that are damaging to himself.
Crediting Welker for getting him to do so during her atrocious interview of him is like praising the sun for rising in the morning. It’s going to happen no matter what you say to it.
Great post, thanks
Brian Kareem as interviewer
*Brian Karem
Are legacy media outlets being played by Trump, or are WE being played by legacy media outlets?
“Mr President” and a walk to show off his golf course-- Tell me why. An agreement NBC made with him so they can have more access... They truly have not learned a thing since 2016!!!
Thank you Aaron. Great report this morning and hopefully more ammunition for Jack Smith.
I'm glad I didn't watch that interview - it sounds disgusting.
I am very curious to the conditions that Trump's people laid out before they allowed him to do the interview. Or perhaps they didn't allow this and true to form he ignored them. Still, I suspect they did and weighed in on what he could be asked. I have read 3 different discussions of this interview which I am fortunate enough not to have watched, and each has a different perspective although all agree that it is harming democracy to allow him to lie about absolutely everything. Jay Kuo did however point out that Trump said things that put him in even bigger legal trouble, because he refuted the case that he is making for his innocence in his Federal case. https://statuskuo.substack.com/p/so-much-for-that-defense-donald
However, it is clear that the American mainstream press is feckless, which is why so many people are writing political analysis on Substack I suppose. The oligarchy here is no better than that in Russia and that is who owns the mainstream. Unfortunately, those who believe Trump, and it is a big group, are not going to be more on his side because of this, because that would be impossible. They are cultists. They are worshippers of Trump, which is what he wants. Like most cult leaders he thinks he is God! Those that agree need to figure things out for themselves. Forty years of Reaganomics has created a lot of lost souls. People who believe that they should expect nothing from their government, and if they suffer it is someone else's fault, but not that of the Criminals in the Republican Party.
I agree that the conditions for agreeing to the interview may have hamstrung things - also as an outside observer, I agree about Reagonomics being a pivotal time in the Republican Party & their adherents - always looked terrible to me at the time as well.