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David J. Sharp's avatar

That screed from Trump - take a moment to re-read - is the language of delusion. What adult, what normal human being, talks like that? Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the President of the United States!

Michael Wild's avatar

I don't think anything I see in American politics with Trump in the White House is going to surprised me now. But threatening massive war crimes when you have the power to commit them if you choose to is not funny or an acceptable negotiating. tactic. It's like a father threatening to rape a teenage daughter during a serious disagreement. Doesn't matter how serious the disagreement you just don't do that. You shouldn't even think of saying that.

As for the 25th Amendment. That requires large numbers of his cabinet to say he's clearly unfit. This cabinet has been selected for loyalty above all else. They've shown resolute fealty with North Korean level grovelling to the Dear Leader. I simply cannot see large numbers of these spineless creeps upending the cult leader. It just ain't going to happen.

Douglas Mackay's avatar

A child’s denial gambit eventually leads to a timeout rather than a cookie. Trump couldn’t pull off this latest con and is now caught in his own web. But, Jared can move ahead with more development proposals for him.

Mark In Colorado's avatar

Nearly everyone remembers exactly where they were when 9/11 occurred (of course, I acknowledge that a generation of people are too young to have witnessed it).

Hatred of the United States in the Middle East must be on steroids once again. Will there be a 2.0?

Dan Leithauser's avatar

It is an insult to imply that “sales is a zero-sum game” based on deception.

I spent over 30 years in sales selling water and process treatments and services to various industries. While this may be more specialized than a most cited example of “car dealer”, there are principles of sales that all salespeople (should) admire and aspire to. Long term customers are built from meaningful productive relationships and sustainable value propositions. At a more granular level-- from individual traits of knowledge and experience, reliability, integrity, and credibility over time. The best sales groups and individuals engender perceivable and repeatable value. These principles can be applied across a universe of sales, relationships, and yes, diplomacy and politics.

Across my experience, credibility and integrity, based on honesty in relationship and transactional terms, are the most important. Simply, customers do not like people (or suppliers) that are perceived as deceptive, dishonest, overly aggressive, and/or do not “deliver”.

The idea of sales being the hard sell, based on some zero-sum game of deception and ultimatums? Admittedly, some salespeople do employ these tactics (and some softer variants), often in single transactional relationships, but that is not what long term trust and relationships are built on. Ordinary people, and indeed multiple other parties, shirk from these tactics and “walk out of the car dealership”.

Let’s be clear, experienced salespeople are ordinary people who (should) possess a wide range of observational, listening, and negotiation skills to create sustainable relationships. While I am just a salesperson, I think I can say there is no place in international negotiations for ultimatums in building sustainable relationships. Certainly not threatening total destruction of any negotiable asset. These are not single transactions, they are a series of transactions based on follow-through, honesty, credibility, trust, and quantification. “Trust but verify”.

Does anything that the current administration has done (currently and ranging back years) read to you as engendering “experience”, trust, reliability, credibility, or integrity? Why would anyone want to do business with such an organization?

Neal Stiffelman's avatar

Thanks. Well done. Perfect kicker.

Neal Stiffelman's avatar

And don’t get me started on Hegseth or Vance.

Susan Kain's avatar

Liz Dye cites a NYT's article in which DJT, talking to Tucker Carlson about any upcoming strikes on Iran, says, "I know you're worried about it, but it's going to be ok....Because it always is." Based on what we know of DJT's entire adult life, a life of commission without commensurate consequences, this is his overarching operating principle: I know you're worried about my decisions, but I'm going to be ok. Because I always am.

Mark Green's avatar

"Vance’s unsubtle effort to distance himself from this disaster confirms that he’s always been a soulless ghoul without principles or loyalty"

While the 25A is still a unlikely scenario this fact makes it more plausible at some point.