The tell isn’t the theology fight, it’s the revealed preference. They’re fine with religion in the public square as long as it functions as a loyalty oath. The moment it asserts independent moral authority, it becomes a problem. That’s not religious freedom. That’s a state church without the paperwork.
Vance converted, made Catholicism central to his identity, and apparently assumed the institution would return the favor. What he got was a 2,000-year-old organization with its own doctrine that doesn’t bend to electoral math. Lecturing the pope on just war theory isn’t arrogance, it’s what happens when faith was always instrumental.
Turns out 1.4 billion Catholics already have a leader. Awkward.
Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm an Australian) but wasn't lots of the founding fathers devout members of minority branches of Christianity at the time and this made them fervent believers in the separation of the church and state and that the state shouldn't muscle in and make any religous position dominant? It would not at all surprise me if Trump and his mob are as ignorant of |American political history/consitution that they to admire as they are of the Christianity they supposedly want to rule supreme.
Could we please not use the phrase "Judeo-Christian". The Christian tradition is, in significant ways, incompatible with its Jewish origin. And, as you point out towards the end, Christians and Jews are NOT treated the same by this administration/regime. I fear that discrepancy will continue only increase over time.
Season 5 of “The Boys” was written a couple of years ago and yet it is frighteningly prescient. This week’s episode had Homelander’s insane epiphany that he was supposed to be the next Jesus. Just…wow.
Vance has converted to so many things he has no overall belief other than greed and fucking couched. Vance will never be anything after this admin. He’s despised, has no charisma and is just an overall piece of shit. He might have had a longer political career if he had stayed a senator for a while but couldn’t resist the pull and now finding out, he’s being pulled under by the wave.
Actually, Stephen Robinson, you DO have to hand it to the Catholic Church. No one would be having this conversation in the first place were it not for her moral teachings and beliefs.
The tell isn’t the theology fight, it’s the revealed preference. They’re fine with religion in the public square as long as it functions as a loyalty oath. The moment it asserts independent moral authority, it becomes a problem. That’s not religious freedom. That’s a state church without the paperwork.
Vance converted, made Catholicism central to his identity, and apparently assumed the institution would return the favor. What he got was a 2,000-year-old organization with its own doctrine that doesn’t bend to electoral math. Lecturing the pope on just war theory isn’t arrogance, it’s what happens when faith was always instrumental.
Turns out 1.4 billion Catholics already have a leader. Awkward.
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Johan
The Catholicism Vance converted to seems still aghast at Vatican II.
It should be fairly clear by now that white evangelical is heavy on the white and lite on Christianity.
Just out of curiosity, but aren’t the Latino “illegal immigrants” predominantly Christian? But no, it’s their color that’s offensive … I forgot.
Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm an Australian) but wasn't lots of the founding fathers devout members of minority branches of Christianity at the time and this made them fervent believers in the separation of the church and state and that the state shouldn't muscle in and make any religous position dominant? It would not at all surprise me if Trump and his mob are as ignorant of |American political history/consitution that they to admire as they are of the Christianity they supposedly want to rule supreme.
Could we please not use the phrase "Judeo-Christian". The Christian tradition is, in significant ways, incompatible with its Jewish origin. And, as you point out towards the end, Christians and Jews are NOT treated the same by this administration/regime. I fear that discrepancy will continue only increase over time.
Agreed. The only Israel fit for the CNats … is one barren of Jew or Muslim.
Season 5 of “The Boys” was written a couple of years ago and yet it is frighteningly prescient. This week’s episode had Homelander’s insane epiphany that he was supposed to be the next Jesus. Just…wow.
Vance has converted to so many things he has no overall belief other than greed and fucking couched. Vance will never be anything after this admin. He’s despised, has no charisma and is just an overall piece of shit. He might have had a longer political career if he had stayed a senator for a while but couldn’t resist the pull and now finding out, he’s being pulled under by the wave.
Those who were attacking Muslims & Sikhs should have known he would come after Catholics. He doesn't care about anyone but himself.
Beware of any “religion” that preaches any form of salvation, but especially those that speak of apocalypse end times nonsense.
Actually, Stephen Robinson, you DO have to hand it to the Catholic Church. No one would be having this conversation in the first place were it not for her moral teachings and beliefs.
As a reminder: Bigotry is sinful.