I've seen this kind of behavior before -- in my college days. A group of students were lobbying hard for a certain policy change, and lost the election. Their response? "The people who voted against this are neurotic, selfish, sick and unfit to decide these things. This is one case in which democracy should just have been thrown out the window, and the administration simply decided this by fiat." You've gotta love college freshmen and their habit of saying the quiet part out loud, but the mentality is exactly the same as that of the overgrown grade school student doddering his way through his second childhood. After "The 2020 election was corrupt" comes "All elections are inherently corrupt, and we need to abolish them. From now on, your wise and benevolent king will make all decisions for you."
You read my mind. They think because the words are uttered, they are factual. The ultimate grift needs a sucker to be born every minute. Apparently 75 million of them have been born since World War 2. This is the longest Twiljight Zone episode ever.😞
“For the record, suspicion can kill, and prejudice can destroy. And a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all its own, for the children and the children yet unborn. And the pity of it is that these things cannot be confined to the Twilight Zone.”
I'm going to take a wild guess and say it was a bunch of white dudes lobbying for something extremely self-serving.
Edited to add: All joking aside though, I'm mildly surprised he hasn't started floating the idea of suspending elections entirely yet. Maybe if the midterms are a disaster for him he'll finally go that far. Can't wait to see how far the press will go to cover for him and cheer on the idea.
If somehow the convicted felon’s minions deliver “proof” that he won GA in 2020 (a monumental “if” there), wouldn’t that mean that he’d have to step down as president now, since he’d be in his 3rd unconstitutional term?
I'm the FB admin for our small Democratic Committee in red, rural VA. I've seen (and deleted and blocked) about a half dozen MAGA comments that Georgia / Fulton County "proves fraud." After the 2nd one, I knew the the MAGA cult was sucking up some new BS. And now I know more. Thanks, Justin.
The art of the big lie. Because most people, when they lie, tell small lies they hope to get away with. The repeated lie, a BIG lie makes people think, 'If it was a lie, he wouldn't be able to keep repeating it' because most people value their credibility and will backtrack when proven false. But for the BIG lie, you just keep repeating it, with NO shame, until (enough) people assume it must be true.
Problem for Trump is, he lies about everything, all the time, and commits countless crimes and major ongoing corruption... Eventually people (one by one) decide he is not credible.
But people tend to believe what they want to believe, and so he will always have some who believe him.
This is Trump getting his 'base' excited again. He knows they have very short memories, so he simply promises them stuff, they react as though it is already real, and then in a week or two when their memories have faded, he will excite them about something else.
In a comment thread about Trump on YouTube where I pointed out Trump's endless lying, a MAGA actually confronted me, demanding I tell him what lies Trump has told. I'm serious.
There are two versions of such people: One is a simple troll who is 'messing with you' because to them it is all about causing harm and confusion to the enemy, and you are their enemy.
The other is simply not a thinker. They hear the lies so much, and other stuff which would be easier to prove a lie, they just do not get exposed to it much on their conservative media channels. They 'hear' what they want to hear. Thinking hurts, and is hard work, so they tend to avoid it. Trump is a good con-man and a salesman. He knows how to get people to avoid logic and rely on 'associations' and emotions for their thinking. Knowing how people react to lies, is kind of his specialty, considering he lies so much.
"will Republican voters once again choose to believe Trump’s lies about a “rigged election” in November, or will they have had enough of all the bullshit?"
They'll believe the lies. They don't care about the truth of the matter and never have. They think they're entitled to rule, and to abuse everyone they think is beneath them.
What are the odds Trump made that bogus election fraud claim, just to distract from his Epstein Nightmare?
He would stage a full scale military invasion of Chicago (if he could) with bombs, missiles, tanks, artillery... the whole thing, just to remove his fear of losing office and then going to jail. Remember those two huge cases Jack Smith had to shelve when Trump became president? Trump never forgot and has a huge fear of them. He already has one set of felony convictions so the 'light' sentencing typical for a first time offender will NOT apply. Trump knows this and knows his freedom requires he NEVER leaves office, or that he escapes to another country.
My money has been for his exile country of choice to be Russia, as the only country that he might feel safe in. Personally I think Putin would trade an exiled Trump for most anything. Putin, like Trump, does not do 'loyalty' to others.
Lie, exaggerate, attack, accuse, deflect, deny, and lie some more.
Lacking any real imagination he often leverages off of various conspiracy theories doing their rounds.
I am done giving ANY credibility to Trump or his minions who needed to declare they gladly agreed with all of his lies, before he would accept their services.
It will be difficult to count ALL the times Trump said there would be hard evidence to back his claims. I am done waiting. IF a miracle should happen, at this stage, this many years later, Truckloads of evidence... in a RED state, with ALL of Trump's resources... I would assume it was manufactured evidence, or just another lie. A lie like when Mike Lindell claimed he had evidence with a prize for anyone who proved him wrong. Huge televised event. Lots of drama, claims, money spent... Mike got sued and had to pay $5 Million dollars to one of the experts he had lined up to check out his evidence. All his evidence did not provide ANY evidence of fraudulent voting. I remember when a Trump friendly 'firm' Cyber Ninjas conducted a "forensic audit" / hand recount of a county's 2.1 million ballots in Arizona. HUGE production, they tried EVERYTHING thought of by every conspiracy theorist out there, and came up with a big fat ZERO. LOTS of states went through major audits of their 2020 results. More than required just because of all of Trump's claims and all the politics it created. Remember, The election was not close at all. Trump would have had to prove MAJOR fraud in at least three swing states in order to have won. It is not unusual for a candidate to lose BIG in a region where the voters typically vote against him or his party. But THOSE are the areas they investigate because the local election board is Democratic.
So really, at this stage, why even listen to Trump's claims of future evidence, let alone sound like you think THIS time may be different. What EVIDENCE has been provided? Any specific claims of HOW the fraud was done (they had that before too, with claims about voting machines, Fox got sued and paid $787.5 million for that lie)? A named whistle blower (they had one of those before too, who was proven bogus)? How many times must Trump LIE before you realize he is a LIAR and has less than ZERO credibility? When Trump makes a claim it is much more likely to be the exact opposite of what he is claiming.
Because Trump lies. It is not just a sin he commits at times, it is not just a habbit, it is more than a compulsion. For Trump, it is a way of life. Lies or major exaggerations. Aggression, bullying or outright cheating. To Trump it is all the same. No morality, no ethics, no concept of service... to Trump those are all for "Suckers".
Trump distraction No. 9,999,999. Harassing Joe Biden by "investigating" his son won't work anymore. Now he's back to his solid narcissism, by "reminding" his base that Dear Leader was so grievously wronged in the 2020 election, so personally wounded that...oh, wait. What he wants is to devise a way to be awarded the presidency in 2028 as a way to make him "whole." No worries about running for a third term if he's simply restored to the presidency without the hassle of another election.
I've seen this kind of behavior before -- in my college days. A group of students were lobbying hard for a certain policy change, and lost the election. Their response? "The people who voted against this are neurotic, selfish, sick and unfit to decide these things. This is one case in which democracy should just have been thrown out the window, and the administration simply decided this by fiat." You've gotta love college freshmen and their habit of saying the quiet part out loud, but the mentality is exactly the same as that of the overgrown grade school student doddering his way through his second childhood. After "The 2020 election was corrupt" comes "All elections are inherently corrupt, and we need to abolish them. From now on, your wise and benevolent king will make all decisions for you."
You read my mind. They think because the words are uttered, they are factual. The ultimate grift needs a sucker to be born every minute. Apparently 75 million of them have been born since World War 2. This is the longest Twiljight Zone episode ever.😞
“For the record, suspicion can kill, and prejudice can destroy. And a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all its own, for the children and the children yet unborn. And the pity of it is that these things cannot be confined to the Twilight Zone.”
- Rod Serling
I'm going to take a wild guess and say it was a bunch of white dudes lobbying for something extremely self-serving.
Edited to add: All joking aside though, I'm mildly surprised he hasn't started floating the idea of suspending elections entirely yet. Maybe if the midterms are a disaster for him he'll finally go that far. Can't wait to see how far the press will go to cover for him and cheer on the idea.
Bingo.
Trump the Supreme and his MAGA minions bravely look to the future by threatening to prosecute the past.
If somehow the convicted felon’s minions deliver “proof” that he won GA in 2020 (a monumental “if” there), wouldn’t that mean that he’d have to step down as president now, since he’d be in his 3rd unconstitutional term?
These are not intelligent people here.
They would never let a silly thing like facts get in the way of their grievances, or their claims for power.
I'm the FB admin for our small Democratic Committee in red, rural VA. I've seen (and deleted and blocked) about a half dozen MAGA comments that Georgia / Fulton County "proves fraud." After the 2nd one, I knew the the MAGA cult was sucking up some new BS. And now I know more. Thanks, Justin.
Tell a lie often enough and it is accepted as the truth. Another reflection of the ease of convincing suckers.
The art of the big lie. Because most people, when they lie, tell small lies they hope to get away with. The repeated lie, a BIG lie makes people think, 'If it was a lie, he wouldn't be able to keep repeating it' because most people value their credibility and will backtrack when proven false. But for the BIG lie, you just keep repeating it, with NO shame, until (enough) people assume it must be true.
Problem for Trump is, he lies about everything, all the time, and commits countless crimes and major ongoing corruption... Eventually people (one by one) decide he is not credible.
But people tend to believe what they want to believe, and so he will always have some who believe him.
This is Trump getting his 'base' excited again. He knows they have very short memories, so he simply promises them stuff, they react as though it is already real, and then in a week or two when their memories have faded, he will excite them about something else.
In a comment thread about Trump on YouTube where I pointed out Trump's endless lying, a MAGA actually confronted me, demanding I tell him what lies Trump has told. I'm serious.
There are two versions of such people: One is a simple troll who is 'messing with you' because to them it is all about causing harm and confusion to the enemy, and you are their enemy.
The other is simply not a thinker. They hear the lies so much, and other stuff which would be easier to prove a lie, they just do not get exposed to it much on their conservative media channels. They 'hear' what they want to hear. Thinking hurts, and is hard work, so they tend to avoid it. Trump is a good con-man and a salesman. He knows how to get people to avoid logic and rely on 'associations' and emotions for their thinking. Knowing how people react to lies, is kind of his specialty, considering he lies so much.
So many are steeped in "confirmation bias," sticking to Fox News and right wing drivel on the internet.
"will Republican voters once again choose to believe Trump’s lies about a “rigged election” in November, or will they have had enough of all the bullshit?"
They'll believe the lies. They don't care about the truth of the matter and never have. They think they're entitled to rule, and to abuse everyone they think is beneath them.
A superb service to PN readers. Aren't there other questions, though? Such as: are Ds planning for this at all?
Like they had to respond to those announcements about health care and infrastructure?
Dirty Don claims they have "truckloads of proof" yet he says they'll reveal it "in a few months." Well, why not do it now?
What are the odds Trump made that bogus election fraud claim, just to distract from his Epstein Nightmare?
He would stage a full scale military invasion of Chicago (if he could) with bombs, missiles, tanks, artillery... the whole thing, just to remove his fear of losing office and then going to jail. Remember those two huge cases Jack Smith had to shelve when Trump became president? Trump never forgot and has a huge fear of them. He already has one set of felony convictions so the 'light' sentencing typical for a first time offender will NOT apply. Trump knows this and knows his freedom requires he NEVER leaves office, or that he escapes to another country.
My money has been for his exile country of choice to be Russia, as the only country that he might feel safe in. Personally I think Putin would trade an exiled Trump for most anything. Putin, like Trump, does not do 'loyalty' to others.
Russia, or Hungary. He loves Viktor Orban.
This is Trump's standard playbook.
Lie, exaggerate, attack, accuse, deflect, deny, and lie some more.
Lacking any real imagination he often leverages off of various conspiracy theories doing their rounds.
I am done giving ANY credibility to Trump or his minions who needed to declare they gladly agreed with all of his lies, before he would accept their services.
It will be difficult to count ALL the times Trump said there would be hard evidence to back his claims. I am done waiting. IF a miracle should happen, at this stage, this many years later, Truckloads of evidence... in a RED state, with ALL of Trump's resources... I would assume it was manufactured evidence, or just another lie. A lie like when Mike Lindell claimed he had evidence with a prize for anyone who proved him wrong. Huge televised event. Lots of drama, claims, money spent... Mike got sued and had to pay $5 Million dollars to one of the experts he had lined up to check out his evidence. All his evidence did not provide ANY evidence of fraudulent voting. I remember when a Trump friendly 'firm' Cyber Ninjas conducted a "forensic audit" / hand recount of a county's 2.1 million ballots in Arizona. HUGE production, they tried EVERYTHING thought of by every conspiracy theorist out there, and came up with a big fat ZERO. LOTS of states went through major audits of their 2020 results. More than required just because of all of Trump's claims and all the politics it created. Remember, The election was not close at all. Trump would have had to prove MAJOR fraud in at least three swing states in order to have won. It is not unusual for a candidate to lose BIG in a region where the voters typically vote against him or his party. But THOSE are the areas they investigate because the local election board is Democratic.
So really, at this stage, why even listen to Trump's claims of future evidence, let alone sound like you think THIS time may be different. What EVIDENCE has been provided? Any specific claims of HOW the fraud was done (they had that before too, with claims about voting machines, Fox got sued and paid $787.5 million for that lie)? A named whistle blower (they had one of those before too, who was proven bogus)? How many times must Trump LIE before you realize he is a LIAR and has less than ZERO credibility? When Trump makes a claim it is much more likely to be the exact opposite of what he is claiming.
As I said above, if he has all this solid evidence, why is he not coming out with it but saying he'll do so months from now?
Because Trump lies. It is not just a sin he commits at times, it is not just a habbit, it is more than a compulsion. For Trump, it is a way of life. Lies or major exaggerations. Aggression, bullying or outright cheating. To Trump it is all the same. No morality, no ethics, no concept of service... to Trump those are all for "Suckers".
Hard to believe such people exist. Cartoonish. But just freakin’ evil. Soulless.
Republicans have been cultivating them for generations.
For some, since the antebellum days.
In antebellum times, Republicans were the good guys.
I would suggest that them Republicans were not of the same tribe as these of the present. I know they share the label, but…
When will the MAGA crowd get exhausted from these antics?
Trump distraction No. 9,999,999. Harassing Joe Biden by "investigating" his son won't work anymore. Now he's back to his solid narcissism, by "reminding" his base that Dear Leader was so grievously wronged in the 2020 election, so personally wounded that...oh, wait. What he wants is to devise a way to be awarded the presidency in 2028 as a way to make him "whole." No worries about running for a third term if he's simply restored to the presidency without the hassle of another election.