The sick puppy is of course lying. Even his cult followers know that he is a pathological liar. Up to now they have turned a blind eye to it, but they can't ignore this other pathology of his. It is disgusting even to them. Unfortunately the Republican leadership will likely act to protect Trump. They can't afford not to. They are just as degraded as he is.
Aren't there quite a few others? Yesterday it was reported that 4 (I counted 5) of the pardoned J6'ers had been arrested for pedophilia. Looking more and more like a badge of honor for repugnicants.
They do have their tastes. Sometimes they remind me of the hypocrisy of the late Victorians in England- properly prudish in public, but given to all kinds of oddities in private. I wonder if Trump and his clique were given to such. If evidence of him involved in such shows up in the Epstein files, that would be a sensation that would get wide and long lasting coverage. Even the House Republicans wouldn't be able to forgive him and it would absolutely pulverize his evangelical base. We Americans still have strong streaks of both Puritan and late Victorian in us.
In politics few things are certain. Michael, but I think you can replace 'likely' with 'certain' in your prediction the Republican leadership will act to protect Trump. Your statement that they are as degraded as Trump is an important if self-evident truth.
Yes, like you I hate to deal with absolutes when it comes to weather forecasting, political forecasting or any kind of forecasting in general. We do know that presidencies before Trump 2.0 have survived big scandals. Harding survived the Teapot Dome scandal. Cleveland survived the persistent rumors that he had fathered an illegitimate mulatto son out of wedlock. Grant had the absolutely most corrupt administration until we come to Trump and he served out his full two terms despite such political scandals as the infamous Salary Grab Act, Crédit Mobilier and the Whiskey Ring. Grant had the reputation of being loyal to a fault, honest but easily gulled by friends and associates so the public forgave him a lot as they do with Trump's outspoken and thoughtless comments. I am cynical enough to think both Grant and Trump played on that public trust
Trump continues good habit of projecting. He studied the Nazi playboy well. But why dont you mentione the lawsuit filed by a woman who said trump raped her at 13 years old in epsteins house? So many still don't know about this.
It's nice to see the Republicans in disarray and I can't see how time spent with the public's attention on the Epstein files is in any way helpful for Trump and his supporters. Trump's decision to sue the Wall Street Jounal was a triumph of vindictive money over political nous. Hope he keeps it up.
That said If Trump can survive being caught on tape bragging about sexually assaulting women I reckon his position as head of the Republican mob is secure. Clearly the moral character of their leader isn't really very important to Republican voters - their sanctimonious religous faction notwithstanding.
With Trump, two phrases will always describe him, no matter the circumstances: "Every accusation is a confession," and "Everything Trump Touches Dies (ETTD)."
In Trump’s desperate attempt to cover up his past, it has finally caught up with him. He has been convicted of fraud and 34 felony counts, as well as the E. Jean Caroll case which proved he is a sexual predator. So why now is his legal case against The Wall Street Journal or his shouts of false prevarication finally, resemble lying – the spaghetti on the wall test?
His more than 15 years of close friendship with Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, the endless number of photos surfacing of him with both these individuals who have been convicted of underage prostitution, and his association with The Beverly Hills nightclub/casino in Moscow – which also specialized in underage prostitution – should be enough evidence for his MAGA followers and upright Republicans to abandon him. People of any level of decency, ethics, or moral sense do not want to think about their daughters or granddaughters being molested by middle-age or old men.
I know Trump was at the "Beverly" because my oldest daughter worked there as their bookkeeper.
Trump has gone to great length to coverup his association with Epstein or his trips to Moscow. Only two years ago there were photos of him in Moscow at the “Beverly.” Now these internet photos are gone.
Instead of allowing this scandal to die, he is now suing The Wall Street Journal – who is the media source to show the American public the “bawdy letter” (WSJ, July 17, 2025, written by Khadeeja Safdar and Joe Palazzolo) Trump apparently drew a naked woman and signed his name. Ghislaine Maxwell compiled a leather-bound book of 50th birthday messages from friends of Epstein. It has now surfaced and is pornographic. While there may not be a “list” of Epstein’s customers, this book could suffice.
The Wall Street Journal is one of the most reputable, dependable, and factual newspapers in the United States. Wikipedia wrote: “A 2018 survey conducted by Gallup and the Knight Foundation found that The Wall Street Journal was considered the third most-accurate and fourth most-unbiased news organization among the general public, tenth among Democrats, and second among Republicans.” Quora – another source – said “the Wall Street Journal has an average political bias rating of center.”
Most importantly, is the story of Deputy Sheriff John Mark Dougan. He was a former Palm Beach County sheriff’s deputy and was “under investigation by the FBI for allegedly collaborating with Russian military intelligence to spread misinformation about Vice President Kamala Harris’ campaign. (25 WPBF News, written by Malcolm Shields, October 25, 2024) Before his arrest, Dougan snatched from the Evidence Room all 478 videos from Epstein’s files. He then drove to Toronto and caught a plane to Moscow.” According to Craig Unger, “Dougan was only the 4th American to receive asylum in Russia.” He presented the Russians evidence - known in Russia as Kompromat - to be used against worldwide leaders - including Donald Trump.
NOW, whether there is "another" Epstein list is debatable. Someone needs to go to the Palm Beach Sheriff's office and ask. By law, they must keep records of evidence, including the tapes that went missing from their custody.
Trump is now scared - and if there is another list - according to Bondi the list was on her desk - then the proof is there regarding Trump and underage sex trafficking and perhaps his connections to Russia.
Laura Jedeed brought up an observation about why this time Trumpsters making up covering excuses might be different. Horror at pedophilia is their self-righteous bag. Is the evidence now showing that Trump was an Epstein-enabled pedophile? To every non-Trumpster in the entire country, sure, no brainer. But to Trumpsters?
Not link-whoring here, I'd really like to hear opinions on this possibility.
"A lot of people left of center are confused by the conservative outrage over Trump’s insistence that the Epstein client list is a hoax. Medicaid cuts, classified data shared on Signal, tariff price fluctuations, the sight of neighbors thrown into unmarked vans hy masked men in paramilitary gear, but Epstein is where they draw the line?
The great majority of Trump's base + elected Republicans will never concede that he is guilty of anything. They will accept any preposterous story rather than accept that. We have 10 years of evidence, leaving no doubt. Even those outraged by the failure to expose Epstein's fellow perverts have no outrage toward Trump for his behavior. They just reject the reality.
This is gonna be a nice little midterm exam, isn't it?
"Either way, Trump supporters are faced with a deeply uncomfortable decision: take the president at his word that the conspiracy his top aides have stoked for years is really a nothingburger, or conclude — for the first time in Trump’s political career, and as the rest of the nation has known for years — that their leader is lying to them."
What a mess, but then everything associated with Trump is a mess. I'm still not clear on when the DOJ first got whatever files they had during the Biden administration or if they ever got additional files Bondi said the SDNY was holding back. All the lies have made the timeline and details murky and convoluted, at least to me.
I have to admit that the way "enigma" was used in Trump's letter to Epstein did not sound like Trump used it for its mere dictionary meaning. Reportedly, Trump wrote in his letter to Epstein “Enigmas never age, have you noticed that?” "Enigma" sounds like some kind of code name, which makes me wonder if Epstein ever used that word and how he did so. Was "Enigma" Epstein's code word for his project for keeping files on high-powered perverts and predators or was "Enigma" Trump's codeword for Epstein's project?
"Trump deported American citizens. White women voted for Trump after he dismantled their reproductive rights and was found liable for sexual assault. He demonized Hispanics and won the largest percentage of Hispanic voters in my lifetime. He steals, commits adultery, brags about killing, bears false witness against his neighbors, covets and takes the name of God in vain, but Evangelical Christians still support him. He insulted veterans, yet won the support of military veterans by a margin of nearly two-to-one.
And now you’re telling me that these people who ignored their religious, moral, racial and individual beliefs are going to do whatever it is you think they’re going to do because a lying, sexual-abusing, convicted criminal is allegedly lying to protect criminal sexual abusers?"
The sick puppy is of course lying. Even his cult followers know that he is a pathological liar. Up to now they have turned a blind eye to it, but they can't ignore this other pathology of his. It is disgusting even to them. Unfortunately the Republican leadership will likely act to protect Trump. They can't afford not to. They are just as degraded as he is.
Yes, despite their “I’m shocked, shocked” posture, Republicans seem to excel at pedophilia—Matt Gaetz, Dennis Hastert …
Aren't there quite a few others? Yesterday it was reported that 4 (I counted 5) of the pardoned J6'ers had been arrested for pedophilia. Looking more and more like a badge of honor for repugnicants.
Typical bully/sexual predator behavior—for pure power, pick on the disadvantaged.
They do have their tastes. Sometimes they remind me of the hypocrisy of the late Victorians in England- properly prudish in public, but given to all kinds of oddities in private. I wonder if Trump and his clique were given to such. If evidence of him involved in such shows up in the Epstein files, that would be a sensation that would get wide and long lasting coverage. Even the House Republicans wouldn't be able to forgive him and it would absolutely pulverize his evangelical base. We Americans still have strong streaks of both Puritan and late Victorian in us.
The prudes who protest the loudest (and before more cameras) are invariably the most corrupt. And this is the new MAGA male masculinity.
In politics few things are certain. Michael, but I think you can replace 'likely' with 'certain' in your prediction the Republican leadership will act to protect Trump. Your statement that they are as degraded as Trump is an important if self-evident truth.
Yes, like you I hate to deal with absolutes when it comes to weather forecasting, political forecasting or any kind of forecasting in general. We do know that presidencies before Trump 2.0 have survived big scandals. Harding survived the Teapot Dome scandal. Cleveland survived the persistent rumors that he had fathered an illegitimate mulatto son out of wedlock. Grant had the absolutely most corrupt administration until we come to Trump and he served out his full two terms despite such political scandals as the infamous Salary Grab Act, Crédit Mobilier and the Whiskey Ring. Grant had the reputation of being loyal to a fault, honest but easily gulled by friends and associates so the public forgave him a lot as they do with Trump's outspoken and thoughtless comments. I am cynical enough to think both Grant and Trump played on that public trust
Trump continues good habit of projecting. He studied the Nazi playboy well. But why dont you mentione the lawsuit filed by a woman who said trump raped her at 13 years old in epsteins house? So many still don't know about this.
Also, all those Peeping Tom complaints from when he ran the Miss Universe contest.
I saw video yesterday online if him kissing girl at miss junior universe or whatever it was called
Exactly. A girl. Kissed on the lips by a middle aged man. Who owns the pageant. This is Harvey Weinstein 101, junior division.
It's nice to see the Republicans in disarray and I can't see how time spent with the public's attention on the Epstein files is in any way helpful for Trump and his supporters. Trump's decision to sue the Wall Street Jounal was a triumph of vindictive money over political nous. Hope he keeps it up.
That said If Trump can survive being caught on tape bragging about sexually assaulting women I reckon his position as head of the Republican mob is secure. Clearly the moral character of their leader isn't really very important to Republican voters - their sanctimonious religous faction notwithstanding.
It’s the dream of segregation that Republicans are yearning for … Trump just the broken vehicle to carry them back.
With Trump, two phrases will always describe him, no matter the circumstances: "Every accusation is a confession," and "Everything Trump Touches Dies (ETTD)."
In Trump’s desperate attempt to cover up his past, it has finally caught up with him. He has been convicted of fraud and 34 felony counts, as well as the E. Jean Caroll case which proved he is a sexual predator. So why now is his legal case against The Wall Street Journal or his shouts of false prevarication finally, resemble lying – the spaghetti on the wall test?
His more than 15 years of close friendship with Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, the endless number of photos surfacing of him with both these individuals who have been convicted of underage prostitution, and his association with The Beverly Hills nightclub/casino in Moscow – which also specialized in underage prostitution – should be enough evidence for his MAGA followers and upright Republicans to abandon him. People of any level of decency, ethics, or moral sense do not want to think about their daughters or granddaughters being molested by middle-age or old men.
I know Trump was at the "Beverly" because my oldest daughter worked there as their bookkeeper.
Trump has gone to great length to coverup his association with Epstein or his trips to Moscow. Only two years ago there were photos of him in Moscow at the “Beverly.” Now these internet photos are gone.
Instead of allowing this scandal to die, he is now suing The Wall Street Journal – who is the media source to show the American public the “bawdy letter” (WSJ, July 17, 2025, written by Khadeeja Safdar and Joe Palazzolo) Trump apparently drew a naked woman and signed his name. Ghislaine Maxwell compiled a leather-bound book of 50th birthday messages from friends of Epstein. It has now surfaced and is pornographic. While there may not be a “list” of Epstein’s customers, this book could suffice.
The Wall Street Journal is one of the most reputable, dependable, and factual newspapers in the United States. Wikipedia wrote: “A 2018 survey conducted by Gallup and the Knight Foundation found that The Wall Street Journal was considered the third most-accurate and fourth most-unbiased news organization among the general public, tenth among Democrats, and second among Republicans.” Quora – another source – said “the Wall Street Journal has an average political bias rating of center.”
Most importantly, is the story of Deputy Sheriff John Mark Dougan. He was a former Palm Beach County sheriff’s deputy and was “under investigation by the FBI for allegedly collaborating with Russian military intelligence to spread misinformation about Vice President Kamala Harris’ campaign. (25 WPBF News, written by Malcolm Shields, October 25, 2024) Before his arrest, Dougan snatched from the Evidence Room all 478 videos from Epstein’s files. He then drove to Toronto and caught a plane to Moscow.” According to Craig Unger, “Dougan was only the 4th American to receive asylum in Russia.” He presented the Russians evidence - known in Russia as Kompromat - to be used against worldwide leaders - including Donald Trump.
NOW, whether there is "another" Epstein list is debatable. Someone needs to go to the Palm Beach Sheriff's office and ask. By law, they must keep records of evidence, including the tapes that went missing from their custody.
Trump is now scared - and if there is another list - according to Bondi the list was on her desk - then the proof is there regarding Trump and underage sex trafficking and perhaps his connections to Russia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dougan_(conspiracy_theorist)
very interesting! thanks for the tip
Never heard Epstein's voice before. Even creepier than expected.
The maga people didn't care that 47 is a rapist. Doubt that they will care about his association with Epstein.
Laura Jedeed brought up an observation about why this time Trumpsters making up covering excuses might be different. Horror at pedophilia is their self-righteous bag. Is the evidence now showing that Trump was an Epstein-enabled pedophile? To every non-Trumpster in the entire country, sure, no brainer. But to Trumpsters?
Not link-whoring here, I'd really like to hear opinions on this possibility.
https://www.bannedinyourstate.com/p/the-epstein-case-is-different
"A lot of people left of center are confused by the conservative outrage over Trump’s insistence that the Epstein client list is a hoax. Medicaid cuts, classified data shared on Signal, tariff price fluctuations, the sight of neighbors thrown into unmarked vans hy masked men in paramilitary gear, but Epstein is where they draw the line?
Yes. Absolutely yes. Here’s why:"
The great majority of Trump's base + elected Republicans will never concede that he is guilty of anything. They will accept any preposterous story rather than accept that. We have 10 years of evidence, leaving no doubt. Even those outraged by the failure to expose Epstein's fellow perverts have no outrage toward Trump for his behavior. They just reject the reality.
This is gonna be a nice little midterm exam, isn't it?
"Either way, Trump supporters are faced with a deeply uncomfortable decision: take the president at his word that the conspiracy his top aides have stoked for years is really a nothingburger, or conclude — for the first time in Trump’s political career, and as the rest of the nation has known for years — that their leader is lying to them."
Caught in the Epstein Files scandal? Escape With The Illustrated 4‑Step Trump Evasion Playbook!
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It’s a cliche, but one’s downfall starts with the cover-up not the crime.
What a mess, but then everything associated with Trump is a mess. I'm still not clear on when the DOJ first got whatever files they had during the Biden administration or if they ever got additional files Bondi said the SDNY was holding back. All the lies have made the timeline and details murky and convoluted, at least to me.
Apparently, some Trump supporters are (falsely) arguing that Trump never used the word "enigma."
https://www.nj.com/politics/2025/07/magas-defense-of-trump-over-1-word-is-immediately-debunked.html
https://newrepublic.com/post/198123/maga-trump-never-use-one-word-epstein-birthday-letter-enigma?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=the_ticker_rss.
I have to admit that the way "enigma" was used in Trump's letter to Epstein did not sound like Trump used it for its mere dictionary meaning. Reportedly, Trump wrote in his letter to Epstein “Enigmas never age, have you noticed that?” "Enigma" sounds like some kind of code name, which makes me wonder if Epstein ever used that word and how he did so. Was "Enigma" Epstein's code word for his project for keeping files on high-powered perverts and predators or was "Enigma" Trump's codeword for Epstein's project?
"two years AFTER Epstein was charged with paying for sex with a 14-year-old" he and the orange sadist have a falling out. I think that says it all.
Michael Harriot observes:
"Trump deported American citizens. White women voted for Trump after he dismantled their reproductive rights and was found liable for sexual assault. He demonized Hispanics and won the largest percentage of Hispanic voters in my lifetime. He steals, commits adultery, brags about killing, bears false witness against his neighbors, covets and takes the name of God in vain, but Evangelical Christians still support him. He insulted veterans, yet won the support of military veterans by a margin of nearly two-to-one.
And now you’re telling me that these people who ignored their religious, moral, racial and individual beliefs are going to do whatever it is you think they’re going to do because a lying, sexual-abusing, convicted criminal is allegedly lying to protect criminal sexual abusers?"
I'm kind of curious about that myself.