Trump and the GOP dimbulbs like Tuberville seem to think that Trump created the COVID mRNA vaccine. Two traditional vaccines were emergency-approved 10 months after the pandemic started in China and spread globally. Seventeen months later, the first-ever mRNA vaccine was rushed into production for national vaccinations. It was highly effective and jumpstarted research into mRNA technology for treating other diseases and conditions. Tony Fauci was involved in that process all along. One might say his involvement was key to ensuring that sound science indicated safety as well as effectiveness to merit emergency FDA approval.
Trump's role in promoting new medications for epidemics has consisted mostly of bragging and taking personal credit. When re-elected, he quickly began to disrupt all NIH research with a freeze on grant money, and then brutal personnel and budget cutbacks for grants. Does that sound like Trump gives a darn about public health? Of course he does. Why else would he appoint a road-kill-eating non-PhD/MD, who promotes baseless vaccination phobias, to head HHS? Does any of this make sense to anybody with normal critical reasoning abilities? Hardly. It is demented if not insane.
I agree with all of this Tom on the Beach (lucky man) but to call Tuberville and his ilk dimbulbs is to defame those of modest intellects. Nearly all of them are less harmful and quite a few of them are wiser than these.....(expletives deleted).
Stupid is as stupid does. One does not unleash a bull in a china shop. One does not elect a fool to the Senate or Legislature unless you are looking for a toadie to serve as your puppet - like Tuberville and his ilk. The Tubervilles of Congress make their owners wealthy at our expense. Trump's lickspittles are selected for incompetence to ensure that they do what they are told rather than even try to govern.
Too often, people confuse wealth or academic credentials with being smart. My interactions with Trump date back to 1985. He impressed me as insecure in his manhood, a nepo driven to dominate, and dumb as a brick. He still does. No surprise to learn he was 2nd-last in his class at Wharton. In contrast to Tuberville, we have AOC, who used to be a barmaid in the Bronx. She is sharp as a tack and governs; not rules.
As I have posted for decades, being in the 1% crowd is not evidence that you are smarter than everybody else. It is evidence that you are more ruthless and amoral than everybody else. Elon would not be a trillionaire if it were not for 10s of billions in federal loans and contracts. How did that happen?
The Covid vaccine (and other vaccines) do NOT contain live virus. The reaction some people have to vaccines is caused by their immune systems. Your statement is misleading and dangerous.
Just like to add that the GOP's vilification of mRNA vaccines applies to future mNRA vaccines for other diseases with an adverse effect on health. The current chicken pox vaccine, for example, while important and necessary, is a traditional vaccine using an attenuated part of the virus. This means one can still get shingles! This means people will need the Shingrex vaccine in the future. While the FDA did approve an mNRA vaccine for the flu, their approval limited the vaccine to those over 55. The GOP band of idiots - Trump, Paul, RFK, Jr, Tuberville, Johnston, etc.- are disastrous for the health of the US.
Excellent point. If I understand correctly, an mRNA chicken pix vaccine would not predispose one to shingles, later, whereas the current live attenuated does.
Covid vaccines did not contain the virus itself at all; they contain manufactured components of the virus such as the spike protein the virus uses to enter cells. That is what would trigger an immune response, not the virus itself.
This misunderstanding underpins their claims that the vaccine caused the disease. We should counter their claims with the actual fact that the vaccine doesn't contain the virus itself. The technical ability to create the distinct pieces of a disease-causing organism which can trigger an immune reaction really was a brilliant insight for creating future vaccines. It is a shame no one corrects these loud mouth conspiracy theorists.
I'd suggest that this is a case of Republican operatives living in their own bubble where Fauci-bahing is seen as a good and honourable thing, which is totally out of touch with where most US citizens are today.
Yes it may fire up some of the Republican base but even then the ficitional evils of Fauci are not going to be as effective as pushing the fictional evils of Democratic politicians.
The whole exercise is a self-indulgent re hash of the wars of some years ago and is a clear sign the Republicans are totally out of touch with where the voters who decide elections are. It's a sign of the moral, intellectual and political decay of the present Republican party.
Not that Tuber-vile cares that he's lying ("Florida Man Runs For Alabama Governor"), but let's get him under oath and see if he changes his tune. (Personally, I'd LOVE to see him lie to Congress and get some jail time, but as a traitor for his sabotage of military readiness for a year, he deserves FAR WORSE.)
I wonder how many of the really, really dumb q-anon inspired BS about the covid vaccine that really deranged will try to resurrect? I think they had one that each shot contains a microchip so the deep state can track you? Or that it changes your DNA?
Sadly, because the Republican cult does not have any ACTUAL policy ideas (at least, none within the boundaries of our Constitution), they are left to "dance with the one that brung 'em"; so they must rely on the bigotry, xenophobia, non-Christian-ophobia (or at least fear of any whose "Christian" beliefs don't jibe with the (R) cult version where hoarding money is good, but feeding the poor, healing the sick, and kindness to the "stranger" or "outsider" is bad), fear of science they don't understand, and contempt for our Constitution that are hallmarks of the Republican cult.
Overheard at a restaurant this week: "I used to think that the only good Repuke was a dead Repuke. Now I think many of them would make excellent organ donors."
One would think Trump/MAGA voters would become numb to the drummed up controversies or at least become so exhausted that they can no longer function in any capacity. I know it seems like I’m being naive, but I really do think that one cannot survive on such anger and outrage. They can blame and blame and blame, but at some point, they’ll say FFS, if they don’t die from cardiovascular disease, malnutrition or communicable diseases first.
Thank you, Mr. Schaller. Between djt losing control and the maga caucuses of Congress being dragged into the wreckage, the reality t.v. show is going to go completely off the rails. And it will be a 24/7 blizzard of b.s. with djt taking the midnight to noon shift day after day after day.
Covid vaccines did not contain the virus itself at all; they contain manufactured components of the virus such as the spike protein the virus uses to enter cells. That is what would trigger an immune response, not the virus itself.
Trump and the GOP dimbulbs like Tuberville seem to think that Trump created the COVID mRNA vaccine. Two traditional vaccines were emergency-approved 10 months after the pandemic started in China and spread globally. Seventeen months later, the first-ever mRNA vaccine was rushed into production for national vaccinations. It was highly effective and jumpstarted research into mRNA technology for treating other diseases and conditions. Tony Fauci was involved in that process all along. One might say his involvement was key to ensuring that sound science indicated safety as well as effectiveness to merit emergency FDA approval.
Trump's role in promoting new medications for epidemics has consisted mostly of bragging and taking personal credit. When re-elected, he quickly began to disrupt all NIH research with a freeze on grant money, and then brutal personnel and budget cutbacks for grants. Does that sound like Trump gives a darn about public health? Of course he does. Why else would he appoint a road-kill-eating non-PhD/MD, who promotes baseless vaccination phobias, to head HHS? Does any of this make sense to anybody with normal critical reasoning abilities? Hardly. It is demented if not insane.
I agree with all of this Tom on the Beach (lucky man) but to call Tuberville and his ilk dimbulbs is to defame those of modest intellects. Nearly all of them are less harmful and quite a few of them are wiser than these.....(expletives deleted).
Stupid is as stupid does. One does not unleash a bull in a china shop. One does not elect a fool to the Senate or Legislature unless you are looking for a toadie to serve as your puppet - like Tuberville and his ilk. The Tubervilles of Congress make their owners wealthy at our expense. Trump's lickspittles are selected for incompetence to ensure that they do what they are told rather than even try to govern.
Too often, people confuse wealth or academic credentials with being smart. My interactions with Trump date back to 1985. He impressed me as insecure in his manhood, a nepo driven to dominate, and dumb as a brick. He still does. No surprise to learn he was 2nd-last in his class at Wharton. In contrast to Tuberville, we have AOC, who used to be a barmaid in the Bronx. She is sharp as a tack and governs; not rules.
As I have posted for decades, being in the 1% crowd is not evidence that you are smarter than everybody else. It is evidence that you are more ruthless and amoral than everybody else. Elon would not be a trillionaire if it were not for 10s of billions in federal loans and contracts. How did that happen?
The Covid vaccine (and other vaccines) do NOT contain live virus. The reaction some people have to vaccines is caused by their immune systems. Your statement is misleading and dangerous.
Thank you -- story corrected and correction added. We regret the error.
Just like to add that the GOP's vilification of mRNA vaccines applies to future mNRA vaccines for other diseases with an adverse effect on health. The current chicken pox vaccine, for example, while important and necessary, is a traditional vaccine using an attenuated part of the virus. This means one can still get shingles! This means people will need the Shingrex vaccine in the future. While the FDA did approve an mNRA vaccine for the flu, their approval limited the vaccine to those over 55. The GOP band of idiots - Trump, Paul, RFK, Jr, Tuberville, Johnston, etc.- are disastrous for the health of the US.
Excellent point. If I understand correctly, an mRNA chicken pix vaccine would not predispose one to shingles, later, whereas the current live attenuated does.
Covid vaccines did not contain the virus itself at all; they contain manufactured components of the virus such as the spike protein the virus uses to enter cells. That is what would trigger an immune response, not the virus itself.
Thanks. My error.
This misunderstanding underpins their claims that the vaccine caused the disease. We should counter their claims with the actual fact that the vaccine doesn't contain the virus itself. The technical ability to create the distinct pieces of a disease-causing organism which can trigger an immune reaction really was a brilliant insight for creating future vaccines. It is a shame no one corrects these loud mouth conspiracy theorists.
Thank you. My error.
I'd suggest that this is a case of Republican operatives living in their own bubble where Fauci-bahing is seen as a good and honourable thing, which is totally out of touch with where most US citizens are today.
Yes it may fire up some of the Republican base but even then the ficitional evils of Fauci are not going to be as effective as pushing the fictional evils of Democratic politicians.
The whole exercise is a self-indulgent re hash of the wars of some years ago and is a clear sign the Republicans are totally out of touch with where the voters who decide elections are. It's a sign of the moral, intellectual and political decay of the present Republican party.
Not that Tuber-vile cares that he's lying ("Florida Man Runs For Alabama Governor"), but let's get him under oath and see if he changes his tune. (Personally, I'd LOVE to see him lie to Congress and get some jail time, but as a traitor for his sabotage of military readiness for a year, he deserves FAR WORSE.)
I wonder how many of the really, really dumb q-anon inspired BS about the covid vaccine that really deranged will try to resurrect? I think they had one that each shot contains a microchip so the deep state can track you? Or that it changes your DNA?
Such fools in Congress- you never know.
Sadly, because the Republican cult does not have any ACTUAL policy ideas (at least, none within the boundaries of our Constitution), they are left to "dance with the one that brung 'em"; so they must rely on the bigotry, xenophobia, non-Christian-ophobia (or at least fear of any whose "Christian" beliefs don't jibe with the (R) cult version where hoarding money is good, but feeding the poor, healing the sick, and kindness to the "stranger" or "outsider" is bad), fear of science they don't understand, and contempt for our Constitution that are hallmarks of the Republican cult.
Overheard at a restaurant this week: "I used to think that the only good Repuke was a dead Repuke. Now I think many of them would make excellent organ donors."
One would think Trump/MAGA voters would become numb to the drummed up controversies or at least become so exhausted that they can no longer function in any capacity. I know it seems like I’m being naive, but I really do think that one cannot survive on such anger and outrage. They can blame and blame and blame, but at some point, they’ll say FFS, if they don’t die from cardiovascular disease, malnutrition or communicable diseases first.
Thank you, Mr. Schaller. Between djt losing control and the maga caucuses of Congress being dragged into the wreckage, the reality t.v. show is going to go completely off the rails. And it will be a 24/7 blizzard of b.s. with djt taking the midnight to noon shift day after day after day.
Covid vaccines did not contain the virus itself at all; they contain manufactured components of the virus such as the spike protein the virus uses to enter cells. That is what would trigger an immune response, not the virus itself.