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How DOGE is running back Musk's Twitter takeover

How DOGE is running back Musk's Twitter takeover

Ryan Mac and Kate Conger, authors of a new book on Musk, talk to PN about the President-unelect.

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More than six weeks into Trumpโ€™s second presidency, there are still lots of questions swirling about the exact nature of Elon Muskโ€™s role in the administration. A couple things, however, are clear: Musk has been applying the same reckless approach he used to tear down Twitter to the federal government. And people arenโ€™t loving it.

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Ryan Mac and Kate Conger of the New York Times literally wrote the book about Muskโ€™s takeover of Twitter. Called โ€œCharacter Limit,โ€ it has become something of a guide for besieged federal workers. Time Magazine recently spoke with a federal worker who said that for an inkling of her fate, she and her colleagues โ€œturned to a book called โ€˜Character Limit,โ€™ which chronicles the way Musk took over Twitter two years ago and fired 80 percent of its staff, often with chaotic and lasting results.โ€

So as a weekend bonus for subscribers, we talked to Mac and Conger about their book, the similarities between Muskโ€™s Twitter takeover and DOGE, Elonโ€™s drug use, and much more.

โ€œPart of the intent of Muskโ€™s playbook is to create confusion,โ€ Conger told us. โ€œHe wants to scare away people who feel overwhelmed. Obviously he wants to cut the federal workforce. Making things uncomfortable and making them difficult is part of the point.โ€

Mac added that one difference in Elon now compared to three years ago is that heโ€™s more emboldened than ever these days.

โ€œHeโ€™s come to understand that he can do anything and thereโ€™s really no impact, because he has a large fanbase who will support him through anything,โ€ he said. โ€œTrump has that quote about shooting someone on Fifth Avenue and not losing support. It kind of applies to Elon too.โ€

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A full transcript of the conversation between Mac and Conger and Public Notice contributor Thor Benson, lightly edited for length and clarity, follows.

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