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Lisa Nystrom's avatar

I like the idea of collecting the taxes but withholding them until they stop committing the abuses. 47 has thrown the constitution out the window. He’s not going to use a constitutional argument to force the States to do anything. Same with the SC. They are twisting and turning the Constitution into a pretzel. Same with Congress. Watching the debate on continuing government funding and the Jack Smith testimony proved that. The bold face bullshit being spewed by the Republican liars yesterday was more proof how deep the swamp goes. Thanks, Lisa and Public Notice. One day at a time is all we can do.🙄

Amy Galloway's avatar

I hope states do take action to withhold taxes —both state and individual—from the federal government. The thought of my dollars supporting the abuses makes me sick and furious!

Alexandra Barcus's avatar

Why am I paying for ICE? That is self-sabotage.

Susanna J. Sturgis's avatar

The parallels to the states' rights arguments of the Confederates are inescapable -- and now the neo-Confederates are, in effect, running the federal government. Or trying to. Jim Crow ruled the South for almost a century after the Civil War ended, never completely disappeared, and has been a strong undercurrent in every Republican administration from Nixon onward. What too many white people, especially those in official positions, have been agonizingly slow to realize is that behind "the masses" (now renamed MAGA) are the oligarchs, the plutocrats, the capitalists, whatever you want to call them. They don't have the votes but they do have the money, and thanks in large part to the Supreme Court money talks louder than ever.

Richard Coulter's avatar

I would like to see several states withholding the funds in a joint effort. If not for any other reason than to get congress to start following the constitution. The civil war is still ongoing.

Patricia Jaeger's avatar

While I am completely sympathetic to these suggestions, they have an almost zero chance of succeeding. You wrote, referring to the idea of states collecting federal taxes but not remitting them: "There’s no telling what the administration would do if this happened." The administration would probably bring criminal charges against a large number of state officials because there are a lot of criminal statutes in the Internal Revenue Code to prevent this type of behavior. I do wonder, however, if states could "slow down" the remits to the federal government. This would also have financial consequences for the federal government. There are laws and regulations about how often states have to remit federal taxes, but maybe these can be stretched without incurring civil and criminal charges.

Change Champion's avatar

Just became a paid subscriber to help support mn! thank you

Eileen Henderson's avatar

I’m pretty sure taking chances and being brave is the only way out of this at this point! I appreciated this article because this is a question. I have seen come up a lot and have wondered about it myself!

noeire's avatar

Last para. -- "There's no telling...what we've got." -- sums it up. The criminal cabal continues to do anything it chooses to do.

Skepticat's avatar

I shall press my state, which now is being invaded by ICE, to collect and withhold taxes—this is an excellent concept; thank you for it. I'm elderly and self-employed, but his past year I didn't pay my federal estimated taxes. This makes April even more of a nightmare, given my current financial position, but I'm not willing to follow the laws when those who benefit from the laws don't.

MPT's avatar

It is rather tragically comical that a man convicted of 34 counts of felony fraud is so concerned about some minor fraud in MN. trump is like a mob boss, if you don't pay me, your life will be worse than I have made it already. Dems scratch their heads trying to figure out legal ways to fight against illegal actions. Blue states have to do something even if it's wrong. The idea of banking federal taxes and not sending them to the trump mob fed is an excellent idea that should be attempted immediately. The states could hold the money and earn interest which could then be sent back to taxpayers after the criminal, corrupt trump admin starts following the law. Dems act insane. They continue to do the same things and expect different results, trump will keep punching blue states in the face until blue states start fighting back. Maybe a compact between blue states would show force in numbers. Blue states subsidize fascist red states. It's time to change tactics or keep getting pummeled by the trump mob.