May 25 • 48M

Ron Filipkowski on why DeSantis "absolutely" can still beat Trump

"How can you validate any poll in May 2023 when you have the frontrunner about to be indicted multiple times?"

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DeSantis at the Red Arrow Diner in Manchester, New Hampshire, on May 19. (John Tully/Washington Post via Getty)

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This week’s episode of the Aaron Rupar Show features returning guest Ron Filipkowski setting the table for the 2024 GOP primary. Hours before Ron DeSantis launched his campaign in sad fashion with a Twitter Space that quickly turned into a technical fiasco, Filipkowski and I discussed why kicking things off in that manner was a strange choice even under the best circumstances. But to my surprise, Filipkowski made a case that DeSantis still has a good chance of beating Trump, and he explained to me how that scenario could unfold. We also talked about the potential the DeSantis/Trump race has to tear apart the Republican Party, Tim Scott’s longshot bid, and much more.

Filipkowski is extremely plugged in and doesn’t pull punches, so I hope you’ll enjoy our conversation as much as I did. Listen to it at the top of this post (or wherever you get your podcasts), or watch the footage below via my YouTube page.

New episodes drop each Thursday morning. Next week’s guest will be Rolling Stone’s Nikki McCann Ramírez.

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I’ll be back tomorrow with an explainer on the debt ceiling. Until then, I hope you like the pod.